{"id":23466,"date":"2017-08-23T10:30:55","date_gmt":"2017-08-23T15:30:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/metonymypress.com\/?p=23466"},"modified":"2017-09-18T14:36:20","modified_gmt":"2017-09-18T19:36:20","slug":"conversation-trish-salah-lyric-sexology-vol-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/metonymypress.com\/fr\/conversation-trish-salah-lyric-sexology-vol-1\/","title":{"rendered":"\u201cSo I think language is difficult\u201d: A conversation with Trish Salah, author of <i>Lyric Sexology Vol. 1<\/i>"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft  wp-image-23467\" src=\"https:\/\/metonymypress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/trish3-e1503501671482-1024x1021.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"450\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https:\/\/metonymypress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/trish3-e1503501671482-1024x1021.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/metonymypress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/trish3-e1503501671482-160x160.jpg 160w, https:\/\/metonymypress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/trish3-e1503501671482-800x798.jpg 800w, https:\/\/metonymypress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/trish3-e1503501671482-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/metonymypress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/trish3-e1503501671482-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/metonymypress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/trish3-e1503501671482-768x766.jpg 768w, https:\/\/metonymypress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/trish3-e1503501671482-570x570.jpg 570w, https:\/\/metonymypress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/trish3-e1503501671482-500x500.jpg 500w, https:\/\/metonymypress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/trish3-e1503501671482-1000x1000.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/metonymypress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/trish3-e1503501671482-700x698.jpg 700w, https:\/\/metonymypress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/trish3-e1503501671482-180x180.jpg 180w, https:\/\/metonymypress.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/08\/trish3-e1503501671482-600x600.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/>Only days before publishing <i>Lyric Sexology Vol. 1<\/i>, we sat down with poet Trish Salah to talk with her about the book, her writing process, l\u2019\u00e9criture f\u00e9minine, archives, and women\u2019s bookstores.<br \/>\n&nbsp;<br \/>\nAmong many others, we had been appreciating her work from more of a distance for over a decade, as her first collection of poetry, <i>Wanting in Arabic<\/i>, was originally published in 2002, and she taught at Concordia University in Montreal for many years.<br \/>\n&nbsp;<br \/>\n<div class=\"su-pullquote su-pullquote-align-left\">\n<h3>&#8220;That\u2019s the bones of <i>Lyric Sexology<\/i>\u2014that poetry can be a philosophical argument.&#8221;<\/h3>\n<\/div>\n&nbsp;<br \/>\nWe asked about the trajectory of her writing and what she\u2019s currently working on, and she pointed to the overlap between creative writing and theory: \u201cI\u2019ve published a lot of articles that sometimes move in poetic ways, and &#8230; in Quebec there was this thing called fiction theory at one point, which was about trying to refuse the divide between creative production and theoretical production. &#8230; But I was really inspired by l\u2019\u00e9criture f\u00e9minine and fiction theory, and some of my first poems are really actually theoretical arguments as much as they are [poems]. That\u2019s there in <i>Wanting in Arabic<\/i>, and in some ways that\u2019s the bones of <i>Lyric Sexology<\/i>\u2014that poetry can be a philosophical argument.\u201d<br \/>\n&nbsp;<br \/>\nShe also reminded us that she has a story in the Topside anthology of trans sci-fi and fantasy, <i>Meanwhile, Elsewhere<\/i>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/events\/242117802974799\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">coming out in early September<\/a>.<br \/>\n&nbsp;<br \/>\nWhat was her process for <i>Lyric Sexology<\/i>? \u201cOne of the inceptions of the book was thinking about gendered rhetorics and how one is in a body in relationship to that.\u201d She said it also started off rooted in her dissertation, \u201cwhich was to do with archives of representations of transgendered [people]. But [another thing is] I was trying to write a collection of stories about voice \u2026 and the ways in which voice changes through transition, and doesn\u2019t change through transition,\u201d Trish said.<br \/>\n&nbsp;<br \/>\n\u201cIf <i>Wanting in Arabic<\/i> was in some ways about trying to figure out how I as a subject might inhabit certain histories, <i>Lyric Sexology<\/i> is about a collective problem of how we might inhabit those histories and struggle with discourses we had a hand in making that we may now find toxic for all sorts of different reasons.\u201d<br \/>\n&nbsp;<br \/>\n<div class=\"su-pullquote su-pullquote-align-right\">\n<h3>\u201cI have been lucky in my friendships and in the communities I\u2019ve entered into in such a way that I think my work was received as critical poetry by an Arab queer woman.\u201d<\/h3>\n<\/div>\n&nbsp;<br \/>\nAnd she\u2019s thought about these things a lot, as it turns out. She took her first course in trans culture and politics from Mirha-Soleil Ross in the late 90s, and then by 2001 was teaching a similar course herself at the Toronto Women\u2019s Bookstore.<br \/>\n&nbsp;<br \/>\nWhat a beautiful trajectory! She expressed a lot of gratitude for the support she\u2019s received: \u201cI have been lucky in my friendships and in the communities I\u2019ve entered into in such a way that I think my work was received as critical poetry by an Arab queer woman.\u201d She also acknowledged the disparities in publishing and writing and teaching, still: \u201cI\u2019ve had mentors, I\u2019ve had good conversations, and a long list of people for whom I\u2019m grateful to be in conversation and dialogue with within that. And on the other hand, we still have massive gender imbalances and racial imbalances in terms of what gets understood to be Canadian literature\u2014so the CanLit conversation about masculinism, racism, and colonialism is entirely relevant.\u201d<br \/>\n&nbsp;<br \/>\nTensions between possibility and the the work still to be done were present throughout our conversation. Regarding her goals for <i>Lyric Sexology<\/i> itself, she said, \u201cI hoped that by producing a history of representation that at some point trans people had made use of in different ways, some of what seems terrible or impossible about our histories might be &#8230; made available rather than appear as something that we would rather not know.\u201d<br \/>\n&nbsp;<br \/>\nTrish&#8217;s next launch of the book takes place in Ottawa on Saturday, September 16 at 7:30pm. <a href=\"https:\/\/metonymypress.com\/event\/\" target=\"_blank\">Find out more<\/a>.<br \/>\n&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3><em><a href=\"https:\/\/metonymypress.com\/shop\">Order<\/em> Lyric Sexology Vol. 1 <em>today!<\/em><\/a><\/h3>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Only days before publishing <i>Lyric Sexology Vol. 1<\/i>, we sat down with poet Trish Salah to talk with her about the book, her writing process, l\u2019\u00e9criture f\u00e9minine, archives, and women\u2019s 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